Civilized Nations Kill With Sanctions And Proxy Armies: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix by Ms Caitlin Johnstone!
(2022-02-27 at 01:13:34 )

Civilized Nations Kill With Sanctions And Proxy Armies: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix by Ms Caitlin Johnstone!

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Pouring more weapons into Ukraine is not how you save lives; you save lives by negotiating a ceasefire. Pouring more weapons into Ukraine is how you create a long and expensive military quagmire for Russia at the cost of many thousands of lives to advance United States strategic interests. While making a vast fortune for the arms industry.

Issuing a guarantee that you would never add a nation to NATO who you do not plan on adding anyway is a no-brainer when the alternative is mass military butchery.

I mean, unless your goal was to provoke mass military butchery.

If the Kremlin wanted to kill large numbers of people it should have done so with starvation sanctions and proxy militias like a civilized government.

Fashion has moved on since the early 2000s, you savages.

Liberalism encapsulated. Perfectly.-Caitlin Johnstone (caitoz) February 25, 2022

You are not allowed to talk about the known United States-NATO-Ukraine actions which experts have been warning for many years would lead us to where we are at. You are only allowed to say President Putin attacked Ukraine completely unprovoked, in a vacuum, solely because he is evil and hates freedom.

Only talking about the guilt of the invader and not the things that were done to provoke that invasion is exactly what I would want people to be doing if I had just provoked an invasion.

Believe it or not it is actually always completely legitimate to criticize the actions of the most powerful empire that has ever existed, especially when those actions clearly paved the way to a war.

The fact that western media cover Ukraine in a wildly different way from United States-led wars is actually immensely important and points to a problem that urgently need attention. Anyone who takes issue with that should shut the f-ck up and stop interrupting adult conversations.

Literally every single time I say NATO powers paved the way to the Ukraine invasion I get some liberal claiming that is like asking what a rape victim was wearing. No, actually, victim blaming a rape survivor is not at all like criticizing the most powerful and deadly power structure in the world.

Liberals have been bleating this line ad nauseum for days, and it is about the most obnoxious and most shitlib thing you could possibly come up with.

If your idea for avoiding war contains some variation of "Ukraine should just stop trying to join NATO" I am going to automatically assume you think the rape victim asked for it because of what she was wearing.-Angry Staffer (Angry_Staffer) February 18, 2022

Empire apologists always try to distort power dynamics to make it seem like they are the brave up-punchers sticking up for the little guy. It is tiny Ukraine against big bad Russia, not Russia against a globe-dominating empire of which Ukraine is just one member state. It is the brave freedom fighters of Syria versus Assad, not Assad against a planetary unipolar hegemon using proxy forces to effect regime change. It is Israel against the big strong Muslim nations which surround it, not an entire empire of which Israel is just one member state picking on far weaker powers. Etc.

For years anti-imperialists have been calling for detente and warning that all this cold war brinkmanship with Russia could lead to hot war. Now hot war is here as a direct result of refusing to pursue detente and they are trying to act like we are the assholes.

Gonna be real fun when the consensus that it is fine for government-tied Silicon Valley corporations to censor online speech in the fight against "misinformation" moves from targeting Covid skeptics to targeting people who disagree with mainstream cold war narratives about Russia.

-Nazis in Ukraine? Russian propaganda.

-United States-backed coup in 2014? Russian propaganda.

-Donbas provocations? Russian propaganda.

-United States-allies armed terrorists in Syria? Russian propaganda.

-Mass media is propaganda? Russian propaganda.

-The government is not your friend? Russian propaganda.-Caitlin Johnstone (caitoz) February 26, 2022

The solution to a crisis that was created by brinkmanship is not more brinkmanship. The solution to a crisis that was created by brinkmanship is detente.

Saying the United States government is still a far worse offender in the mass military slaughter department than Russia will be met with hysterical shrieking and the rending of garments now, but it is still indisputably true and if you disagree with it it is because you are propagandized.

That the United States is the most murderous government in todays world is just an easily quantifiable fact. President Putin will have to work very, very hard to catch up to those numbers. This is important to note not because of some genocidal dick measuring contest, but because it points to what a healthy attitude toward United States military butchery would look like through eyes untinted by propaganda manipulation.

Theoretically the actual United States-NATO military decision makers know imposing a no fly zone over Kyiv would be insane, since it is a one-way ticket to another world war; probably a very fast and radioactive one. But the fact that so much of the official United States political-media class has been calling for one discredits it forever.

When asked why the United States-NATO has not set up a no-fly zone in Ukrainian airspace, Kirby says that "that is a policy decision at the nation-state level." He reiterates the administrations position to not deploy United States forces to Ukraine while at the same time strengthening NATO allies.-Valerie Insinna (ValerieInsinna) February 25, 2022

They sincerely do not seem to understand what it is that would be stopping the Russian planes from flying under such a scenario. They think it is like a rule you make and then the Russians go "Aww shucks I wanted to fly there but it is against the rules now."

This is the only appropriate level of response to this madness:

-You are calling for the closest thing to World War III that anyone in living memory has ever experienced. You are a complete psycho who belongs in a padded white room, not Congress.-Michael Tracey (mtracey) February 26, 2022

Obviously anyone who had anything whatsoever to do with supporting the Iraq invasion should shut the whole entire f-ck up about Ukraine for all eternity.

Do not let people act like Iraq is some distant memory. It happened 19 years ago. The Simpsons stopped making good episodes longer ago than that. It just happened, the consequences are still unfolding, the occupation is still ongoing, and they are still using the same old tricks.

Hollywood teaches us that heroism looks like an individual stopping a bank robbery or leaving a criminal tied up outside the police station so we do not realize that real heroism looks like a collective rising up against our plutocratic rulers and creating a healthy world.

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